I really like the market, but I have to say this move makes no sense to me. I mean, I think the thing that set off Yosimite was the alleged leaking of some IP address. I don't have enough knowledge of how a market should run these days to know if it was inconsequential or not. However, if this was no big deal, it seems like a VERY strange strategy. "Our competition is posting a bunch of stuff about us that's a bunch of FUD and not true so we're going to completely remove ourselves from the entire communication platform and delete all our post history."
Thereby, uhh, completely removing yourself from the conversation?
I just don't get it.
Also, all of the sudden Alphabay is the bad guy?! Lmao everyone was shitting on them forever and now they're part of the Dread deep state (which yes, I know it does exist a little bit but it's just advertising money and shady dealings).
I was around for all of AlphaBay and remember a lot of DeSnake's posts. Obviously my memory isn't very good now, but I thought /u/DeSnake was one of the few who was never actually caught. I don't think that AlphaBay is an LE honeypot because LE has waaaay more funding than that lol a 2022 honeypot market isn't happening unless it just gets seized.
LE doesn't need a market to be their honeypot when they have the mountains and mountains of data that are piling up from poor opsec, instant exchanges, postal providers, VPN providers, telecomm providers, financial providers, all under gag orders or unknowingly providing all the info they need from the built in surveillance equipment that is installed throughout key points in all telecommunications grids. It's been this way since CALEA was signed in 1984. Look up lawful interception.
I'd believe /u/DeSnake is penissmith before I'd believe he's LE making an LE market and Alphabay relaunched is the result of billions of dollars of funding.
EDIT: To be fair, again, I have no idea about the full story. I'll look more into it but I doubt it gets more sensible.
I feel like dread should keep them on because its still good for the community and vendors. I dont see Archetyp growing to their full potiental without being on dread but I hope they do as I love vending on their market
Recon is getting an update soon. Archetyp didn't integrate recon so they will most likely being removed because they no longer want to participate within the dread ecosystem. Which is completely fine. It's a choice to be on here and they found that it wasn't valuable enough to be on here anymore.
Hi Paris
There are serious questions around the motive to leave. Is it to reduce traffic on the topic of their market? If the markets not listed are the people who use dread still going to talk about it? And if the chat gets so low on the market what happens if an exit scam starts all those voices that were once there, aren't any longer.
If anything having a silent presence on the forum would still draw comments increasing traffic to their site.
Border line Gerald Ratner move IMO
You are thinking too hard about it. The admin just didn't like how I handled it and it was the final straw for him so he did what we was probably planning to do a long time but didn't have a good enough reason. Which is fine. I wish him the best. It's a choice to be on here.
/u/socat2me · N/A votes · 9th March, 2022 - 17:06 · Link
I really like the market, but I have to say this move makes no sense to me. I mean, I think the thing that set off Yosimite was the alleged leaking of some IP address. I don't have enough knowledge of how a market should run these days to know if it was inconsequential or not. However, if this was no big deal, it seems like a VERY strange strategy. "Our competition is posting a bunch of stuff about us that's a bunch of FUD and not true so we're going to completely remove ourselves from the entire communication platform and delete all our post history." Thereby, uhh, completely removing yourself from the conversation? I just don't get it. Also, all of the sudden Alphabay is the bad guy?! Lmao everyone was shitting on them forever and now they're part of the Dread deep state (which yes, I know it does exist a little bit but it's just advertising money and shady dealings). I was around for all of AlphaBay and remember a lot of DeSnake's posts. Obviously my memory isn't very good now, but I thought /u/DeSnake was one of the few who was never actually caught. I don't think that AlphaBay is an LE honeypot because LE has waaaay more funding than that lol a 2022 honeypot market isn't happening unless it just gets seized. LE doesn't need a market to be their honeypot when they have the mountains and mountains of data that are piling up from poor opsec, instant exchanges, postal providers, VPN providers, telecomm providers, financial providers, all under gag orders or unknowingly providing all the info they need from the built in surveillance equipment that is installed throughout key points in all telecommunications grids. It's been this way since CALEA was signed in 1984. Look up lawful interception. I'd believe /u/DeSnake is penissmith before I'd believe he's LE making an LE market and Alphabay relaunched is the result of billions of dollars of funding. EDIT: To be fair, again, I have no idea about the full story. I'll look more into it but I doubt it gets more sensible.
/u/OfficialJabberJaw · N/A votes · 9th March, 2022 - 17:10 · Link
I feel like dread should keep them on because its still good for the community and vendors. I dont see Archetyp growing to their full potiental without being on dread but I hope they do as I love vending on their market
/u/Paris · N/A votes · 9th March, 2022 - 18:25 · Link
Recon is getting an update soon. Archetyp didn't integrate recon so they will most likely being removed because they no longer want to participate within the dread ecosystem. Which is completely fine. It's a choice to be on here and they found that it wasn't valuable enough to be on here anymore.
/u/plkqcs · N/A votes · 9th March, 2022 - 18:29 · Link
Thank you
/u/bobnotbob · N/A votes · 9th March, 2022 - 22:04 · Link
Hi Paris There are serious questions around the motive to leave. Is it to reduce traffic on the topic of their market? If the markets not listed are the people who use dread still going to talk about it? And if the chat gets so low on the market what happens if an exit scam starts all those voices that were once there, aren't any longer. If anything having a silent presence on the forum would still draw comments increasing traffic to their site. Border line Gerald Ratner move IMO
/u/Paris · N/A votes · 9th March, 2022 - 22:10 · Link
You are thinking too hard about it. The admin just didn't like how I handled it and it was the final straw for him so he did what we was probably planning to do a long time but didn't have a good enough reason. Which is fine. I wish him the best. It's a choice to be on here.
/u/bobnotbob · N/A votes · 10th March, 2022 - 02:26 · Link
I've watched to many murder she wrote episodes. There's always clues lol
/u/tarantoloso · N/A votes · 12th March, 2022 - 21:05 · Link
or they just refused to pay an enormous amount of money and they HAVE to leave, who knows?